# Is this Pi?... I'm afraid to work out the two triangles with question marks

#### SDK

What does it mean to find pi? I'm not sure what you are claiming to have done. I found pi as well. It's right there -------->$\pi$.

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#### skeeter

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#### Yidna

What does it mean to find pi? I'm not sure what you are claiming to have done. I found pi as well. It's right there -------->$\pi$.
Picture to come with new angles, it's pi... Here, I'll hold your hand through it. Try to keep up, you haven't seen the new pictures with the new angles used here, but you can imagine them, or get your paper out. (i make for you picture in two days, Okay?)
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1rm4r1fak/

CIRCLING THE STAR OF LAKSHMI Page 1
FACTS

Angle A = 112.5 degrees.
Side a = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle B = 22.5 degrees.
Side b = 0.292893218813452475599155637895150960715164062311

Angle C = 45 degrees.
Side c = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Area Triangle ABC = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577
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Angle D = 67.5 degrees.
Side d = 0.5

Angle E 22.5 degrees.
Side e = 0.207106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle F = 90 degrees.
Side f = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Area of Triangle DEF = 0.051776695296636881100211090526212259821208984422
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Angle G = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496 degrees.
Side g = 0.707106781186547524400844362104839039284835937688

Angle H = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees.
Side h = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Angle I = 45 degrees.
Side i = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Area of triangle GHI = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Angle J = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496.
Side j = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle K = 45 degrees.
Side k = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Angle L = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees.
Side l = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Area of Triangle JKL = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788 _____________________________________________________________________

Angle M = 112.5 degrees. Page 2
Side m = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Angle N = 54.7356103172453456846229996699812179815034215504 degrees.
Side n = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Angle O = 12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees.
Side o = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Area of Triangle MNO = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Area of The Star of Lakshmi = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232
Area of Circle of Radius i set to 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232
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Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413
Area of Wedge O within Radius i = 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163
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Difference between Wedge L and Triangle JKL = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637

Difference between Wedge O and Triangle MNO = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637

NOTICE: The Equality.
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WORK:

Of Solving Triangle ABC, a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC, to find b and c.

Angle A = 112.5 degrees, while side a = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

a/sinA = 0.765366864730179543456919968060797733522689124970

sinB * a/sinA = side b = 0.292893218813452475599155637895150960715164062311

sinC * a/sinA = side c = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377
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Of Solving Triangle DEF, f/sinF = e/sinE =d/sinD, to find side e and d.

Angle F = 90 degrees, whilst Side f = side c.

f/sinF = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

sinE * f/sinF = side e = 0.207106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

sinD * f/sinF = side d = 0.5
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Of Solving Triangle GHI Page 3

Side h = side b/2. Side h = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Side g known. = sqrt(2)/2 = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

i^2 = g^2 + h^2 - 2gh cosI

i^2 = 0.375

Continuing, i/sinI =g/sinG = h/sinH, to find the smaller angle (H).

i/sinI = 0.866025403784438646763723170752936183471402626904

h/i/sinI = sinH = 0.169101978725762748142934768050975556986610504493

Angle H = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394

Now, (180 degrees â€“ angle H â€“ angle I = angle G)

Angle G = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496
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Solving Triangles JKL and MNO For Area.

Finding Area of JKL:

sinL = x/k

sinL * k = x = height = 0.103553390593273762200422181052424519642417968843

Area = 1/2 j * x

Area of Triangle JKL = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Finding Area of MNO:

sinO =x/n

n * sinO = x = height = 0.119573155869050134111639622200003170837190371141

Area = 1/2 m * x

Area of Triangle MNO = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788

Area of Triangle JKL = Area of Triangle MNO.

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Area Triangle ABC is 1/2 of a * e = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577
x 16 = Area of Star of Lakshmi = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232

With Area of Circle of Radius i set to Area of Star of Lakshmi, Pi =
3.124194334010159739724326804214943580961749997952
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Finding Areas of Wedges L and O within Radius i:

(area of circle radius i = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232)

9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413

12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge O within Radius i = 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163
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Finding Wedge Segments from differences between Wedges and their Triangles:

Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413
Area of Wedge O within Radius i= 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163

Isolated area between Wedge L of Radius i, and Triangle JKL = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637.

Isolated area between Wedge O of radius i, and Triangle MNO = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637.

Equivalent differences!
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Finding Area of Wedge B within Radius i:

(area ABC = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577)
(area circle radius i = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232)

22.5 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge B within Radius i = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577

Area ABC = Area of Wedge B within Radius i.
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Area ABC = Area of Wedge B within Radius i.

Pretty sure Pi is 3.124194334010159739724326804214943580961749997952. Page 5

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EXTRA INFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T USE:

Finding Areas of Wedges L and O within Radius a

(area of circle radius a =1.562097167005079869862163402107471790480874998973)

9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius a =
Area of Wedge L within Radius a = 0.042244359154539948253682235992127904669904228551

12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius a =
Area of Wedge O within Radius a = 0.055386713783277543612702976639589082235150458884
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Area of Wedge L within Radius a = 0.042244359154539948253682235992127904669904228551
Area of Wedge O within Radius a = 0.055386713783277543612702976639589082235150458884

Difference between Area of Wedge L of Radius a, and Area of Wedge L of Radius i =
0.010561089788634987063420558998031976167476057138

Difference between Area of Wedge O of Radius a, and Area of Wedge O of Radius i =
0.013846678445819385903175744159897270558787614721

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Pretty sure Pi is 3.124194334010159739724326804214943580961749997952
Pretty sure it's not.

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#### Yidna

Pretty sure it's not.
I'm glad you're pretty sure it's not
there's all you little snots
all you gotta do is look
i could write a big book

You're taking your chances saying nay.
You take your chances every day.

You're busted wide open. This is pi.

Quickly say again without looking that this is not Pi.

Argue with me more and sink yourself.

you think about how many people are going to see you and what you said when they come in here wanting to see the real Pi. they'll get a kick out of you.

#### Yidna

i drop the picture in less than 48 hours.

it's got a lot of info on it... I make it so you can see it all.

#### DarnItJimImAnEngineer

Did... Did I just read a diss rap about pi? Your method may or may not be valid for finding pi. I honestly have no idea. The point people are making is that the decimal value you claim as pi is not correct. It's already off at the third digit. We've known the approximate decimal value of pi for a long time (3.1415926535898... and that's all I can ever have been bothered to remember). There are rational approximations from four millenia ago that are closer than your proposed value.

On a side note, are you using a 128-bit calculator? Where do you even get one? Did you write it yourself?

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#### topsquark

Math Team
Yidna: That's one (Swear) of a typo then. Maybe you should check those figures just one more time.

Or are you saying that you have actually developed a new value for pi? pi isn't a number that is calculated by simple measurements any more so there is really no real room for debate on the value. And, hey, even the Greeks knew that pi was about 3.14. Your value of 3.12 just doesn't cut it.

I am happy to go on record that your number is wrong. (Not that I merely believe it's wrong, it's that it is definitely wrong.)

-Dan

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#### SDK

What does it mean to find pi? I'm not sure what you are claiming to have done. I found pi as well. It's right there -------->$\pi$.

Picture to come with new angles, it's pi... Here, I'll hold your hand through it. Try to keep up, you haven't seen the new pictures with the new angles used here, but you can imagine them, or get your paper out. (i make for you picture in two days, Okay?)
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1rm4r1fak/

CIRCLING THE STAR OF LAKSHMI Page 1
FACTS

Angle A = 112.5 degrees.
Side a = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle B = 22.5 degrees.
Side b = 0.292893218813452475599155637895150960715164062311

Angle C = 45 degrees.
Side c = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Area Triangle ABC = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577
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Angle D = 67.5 degrees.
Side d = 0.5

Angle E 22.5 degrees.
Side e = 0.207106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle F = 90 degrees.
Side f = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Area of Triangle DEF = 0.051776695296636881100211090526212259821208984422
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Angle G = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496 degrees.
Side g = 0.707106781186547524400844362104839039284835937688

Angle H = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees.
Side h = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Angle I = 45 degrees.
Side i = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Area of triangle GHI = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Angle J = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496.
Side j = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

Angle K = 45 degrees.
Side k = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Angle L = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees.
Side l = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Area of Triangle JKL = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788 _____________________________________________________________________

Angle M = 112.5 degrees. Page 2
Side m = 0.612372435695794524549321018676472847991486870164

Angle N = 54.7356103172453456846229996699812179815034215504 degrees.
Side n = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

Angle O = 12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees.
Side o = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Area of Triangle MNO = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Area of The Star of Lakshmi = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232
Area of Circle of Radius i set to 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232
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Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413
Area of Wedge O within Radius i = 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163
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Difference between Wedge L and Triangle JKL = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637

Difference between Wedge O and Triangle MNO = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637

NOTICE: The Equality.
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WORK:

Of Solving Triangle ABC, a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC, to find b and c.

Angle A = 112.5 degrees, while side a = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

a/sinA = 0.765366864730179543456919968060797733522689124970

sinB * a/sinA = side b = 0.292893218813452475599155637895150960715164062311

sinC * a/sinA = side c = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377
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Of Solving Triangle DEF, f/sinF = e/sinE =d/sinD, to find side e and d.

Angle F = 90 degrees, whilst Side f = side c.

f/sinF = 0.541196100146196984399723205366389420061072063377

sinE * f/sinF = side e = 0.207106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

sinD * f/sinF = side d = 0.5
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Of Solving Triangle GHI Page 3

Side h = side b/2. Side h = 0.146446609406726237799577818947575480357582031155

Side g known. = sqrt(2)/2 = 0.707106781186547524400844362104849039284835937688

i^2 = g^2 + h^2 - 2gh cosI

i^2 = 0.375

Continuing, i/sinI =g/sinG = h/sinH, to find the smaller angle (H).

i/sinI = 0.866025403784438646763723170752936183471402626904

h/i/sinI = sinH = 0.169101978725762748142934768050975556986610504493

Angle H = 9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394

Now, (180 degrees â€“ angle H â€“ angle I = angle G)

Angle G = 125.2643896827546543153770003300187820184965784496
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Solving Triangles JKL and MNO For Area.

Finding Area of JKL:

sinL = x/k

sinL * k = x = height = 0.103553390593273762200422181052424519642417968843

Area = 1/2 j * x

Area of Triangle JKL = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788
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Finding Area of MNO:

sinO =x/n

n * sinO = x = height = 0.119573155869050134111639622200003170837190371141

Area = 1/2 m * x

Area of Triangle MNO = 0.036611652351681559449894454736893870089395507788

Area of Triangle JKL = Area of Triangle MNO.

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Area Triangle ABC is 1/2 of a * e = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577
x 16 = Area of Star of Lakshmi = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232

With Area of Circle of Radius i set to Area of Star of Lakshmi, Pi =
3.124194334010159739724326804214943580961749997952
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Finding Areas of Wedges L and O within Radius i:

(area of circle radius i = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232)

9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413

12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge O within Radius i = 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163
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Finding Wedge Segments from differences between Wedges and their Triangles:

Area of Wedge L within Radius i = 0.031683269365904961190261676994095928502428171413
Area of Wedge O within Radius i= 0.041540035337458157709527232479691811676362844163

Isolated area between Wedge L of Radius i, and Triangle JKL = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637.

Isolated area between Wedge O of radius i, and Triangle MNO = 0.00492838298577659825963277774279794158696733637.

Equivalent differences!
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Finding Area of Wedge B within Radius i:

(area ABC = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577)
(area circle radius i = 1.171572875253809902396622551580603842860656249232)

22.5 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius i = Area of Wedge B within Radius i = 0.073223304703363118899788909473787740178791015577

Area ABC = Area of Wedge B within Radius i.
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Area ABC = Area of Wedge B within Radius i.

Pretty sure Pi is 3.124194334010159739724326804214943580961749997952. Page 5

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EXTRA INFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T USE:

Finding Areas of Wedges L and O within Radius a

(area of circle radius a =1.562097167005079869862163402107471790480874998973)

9.735610317245345684622999669981217981503421550394 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius a =
Area of Wedge L within Radius a = 0.042244359154539948253682235992127904669904228551

12.76438968275465431537700033001878201849657844960 degrees/360 * Area of Circle Radius a =
Area of Wedge O within Radius a = 0.055386713783277543612702976639589082235150458884
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Area of Wedge L within Radius a = 0.042244359154539948253682235992127904669904228551
Area of Wedge O within Radius a = 0.055386713783277543612702976639589082235150458884

Difference between Area of Wedge L of Radius a, and Area of Wedge L of Radius i =
0.010561089788634987063420558998031976167476057138

Difference between Area of Wedge O of Radius a, and Area of Wedge O of Radius i =
0.013846678445819385903175744159897270558787614721
Now its crystal clear!

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#### skeeter

Math Team
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