It depends on your definition of "existence". If we take the common definition of existence, which is "something that has objective reality", and if you accept that we live in an objective and material reality, then electrons exist (first option). This is because electrons can be observed by devices and the mathematical models that describe the data have been verified against observations. That is, electrons have objective reality. This point is very important.Do electrons exist or are they just models to explain physical phenomena?
What model do you lean toward then? i.e., good old fashion normal universe arising from the big bang model. Or perhaps that with a touch of (insert any other contemporary universe model here).Surely what I said is true under the simulation hypothesis. If we're a simulation we only know the rules of our simulated world, not the rules of the next level up (which may itself be a simulation). Personally I think simulation theory, uploading yourself to a computer, strong AI, etc. are all bullshit. But a lot of serious people these days believe in them. And therefore, a lot of serious people must believe that physics only studies the rules of the video game we live in.
I agree. The more we know, the less we know. I feel like i'm always reading an article on Quanta that discusses the discovery of some 'law breaking phenomena' or something along those lines.Well this is the physics forum, maybe this should go to philosophy. But now that you mention it ... Isn't physics itself a little philosophical these days. Thirty years of string theory, multiverse theory ... an entire generation of physicists spending their lives working on theories that can never be experimentally tested. Some contemporary philosophers claim experiments are no longer the defining attribute of science.
The same could be said about all of science, even math. But i think I've veered too far off topic.The physicists themselves are quite proud these days of making it up as they go, as long as the math is interesting and the grant money flows.
There's a world out there but it's far stranger than anything we can imagine. Humans aren't close to figuring it all out. I know I'm not. I don't expect science to ever have ultimate answers. I think it was Weinberg in Dreams of a Final Theory (could be wrong about that) who longed for a simple equation you can put on a t-shirt. The ultimate law of the universe. I can't imagine there is any such thing.What model do you lean toward then?
Until today what I have read about this concept of the electron is probably closer to the description of physical reality.It depends on your definition of "existence".
By referring to something as "just" a mathematical model or "just a theory", one refers to a hypothesis, a mathematical model of a system that is unverified and has yet to be tested against objective reality.....
What caused you to doubt what you already know?Until today what I have read about this concept of the electron is probably closer to the description of physical reality.
Yes and no.JamSmith said:So, I can sum up with all of the information; that all performed experiments were remarkably consistent with the predictions of the modern model of the electron?